
Siobhán’s been in touch with me lately but didn’t want me to post anything until the baby was here. After much suspense, she gave birth this morning to a beautiful baby boy! Many congratulations from the whole YCCII clan. He still, however, needs a name.
Hi Elisabeth,
I would absolutely love your help, and the help of your readers in choosing a name for my second son, who arrived earlier today!
My partner and I have a two year old son named Luca Cy B– – –well (two syllable English surname), and while I’m not a fan of matchy-matchy names, I would love any siblings, including this baby, to have names that sit nicely together as a sibset.
As such, I considered several other European names, and have settled on the name Remy (pronounced ‘Rem-ee’ – I’m still trying to decide whether should add the French accent to the ‘e’ or not, and would love your thoughts).
Other names that I shortlisted early on include Rafferty, Rafael/Raphael, Aurélien/Aurelius, Roman, Etienne, Clement, Florian, Cassius, Caspar, Aubrey, Tobias, Tobias, Eero, Miro and Olmo, to give you an idea of the style of names I like, and all of these could now be middle name possibilities.
While I’d love your opinion on my first name choice, I would especially love to get some thoughts on my shortlist of middle names, as these seem to be proving particularly difficult. Originally, I had planned to give this baby only one middle name, as I did with my firstborn son, however I have been seriously thinking about adding another middle name to my son’s existing name (my current favourites are Luca Cy Theodore or Luca Cy Maxim, but I’d love other suggestions…), and as such, I think I would like to give this baby and any future children two middle names.
I’d like to find names that somehow tie together or bridge a European first name and an English surname. My shortlist of middle names to go with Remy includes:
Lucian** (or Lucien)
Atticus
Theodore
Aurélien
Aurelius
Levin
Maxim / Maxime
Mateo
Cassius
Cassian
Caspar
Leon
Caspian
Casimir
Clement or Clemént / Clemente
Artemis
Magnus
Albion
Hugo
Jude
Otto
**I absolutely adore the name Remy Lucian, but wonder if it would be odd to give my newborn son a middle name that’s so close to my first son’s name, Luca (even though they apparently have different etymologies)? Originally, I had wanted to name my first son Lucian and use Luca as a nickname, but my partner refused, and I’ve always grieved the loss of that name, hence why I’d love to use it now! But I’m open to hearing other people’s (honest) opinions about this, as well as thoughts on each of the middle names mentioned above. Oh, and please don’t be too influenced by the fact that my son has a very short middle name, as most of the middle names I like for this and future babies tend to be longish, so Cy will just have to be the odd name out (we chose Cy after the late American painter Cy Twombly, a favourite artist of mine, and I would love to use Lucian as a tribute to Lucian Freud, another favourite artist…). Also, I really love the Lucian spelling, but wonder if Lucien flows better next to Remy, given that both names are French…
While it’s by no means essential that I use family names as middle names, the one person I would like to honour in naming each of my children is my youngest sister Mairead, who died suddenly four years ago. As she died in quite tragic circumstances, however, I feel uncomfortable using her actual name, but would like to honour her in some other way… One reason I named my son Luca was because he was born shortly after my sister’s death, and his name means ‘bringer of light’, which felt very significant at that time. My sister was a philosopher/lecturer, whose main area of study and teaching was ancient Greek philosophy, and who was obsessed with anything Greek-related, and this is why I thought Theodore could make a good additional middle name for Luca, and why it could be nice to have a Greek influence somewhere in each name I choose for any other children. I am also open to hearing other name suggestions that could honour my sister in some way.
So… some of the name combinations that I’m considering for my son are:
Remy Lucian Atticus
Remy Lucian Aurelius
Remy Lucian Cassius
Remy Lucian Clement
Remy Lucian Caspar
Remy Lucian Casimir
Remy Aurélien Cassius
Remy Aurelius Clement
Remy Aurelius Maxim
Remy Aurelius Leon
Remy Etienne Casimir
Remy Leon Atticus
I would love to hear thoughts on the above, and welcome further suggestions on first and/or middle names, as well as name combinations.
I am as name-obsessed as everyone else who frequents YCCII, so I’m sure you can understand my desire to find the perfect name for our beautiful baby!!
Thanks so much for your help in advance!
Siobhán
Siobhán, I’m thrilled to welcome your son to the world, and absolutely smitten with your choice of Remy! Even though this is a middle name poll only, we still have much to discuss.
As for the accent in Remy, depending on what country you live in, you may not be able to include it on the birth certificate at all. I would go with your gut on this one, and what seems the most culturally appropriate to where he will grow up.
On middles:
I’m afraid I won’t be the only one who is genuinely twitchy at the thought of LUCA Cy and Remy LUCIAN together. You said yourself you wanted to name Luca “Lucian”, but got vetoed. You chose Luca for a reason. For me that would mean that the ship had sailed on the name Lucian, which while according to scholars do derive from different sources (Luca being “from Lucania” and Lucian being “of light”, from the Latin lux) are awfully similar. Luca is also sometimes used as a nickname for Lucian. What if by chance, Remy found his name too feminine and wanted to go by a middle name some day? You would have sons Luca and Lucian. It’s much, much too similar. Plus, there’s such a wide variety of amazing names to choose from. If you do opt for this in the middle, note that the French spelling Lucien does have a different pronunciation, though English speakers will likely say them the same.
My condolences on the loss of your sister Mairead. I love that you want to honor her by choosing something she would have loved. We’ve featured several posts here offering a host of names inspired by Ancient Greece.
Remy needs robust, masculine names to balance out its softer feel. For this reason I would personally eliminate Etienne or use it third. Atticus, being a name of the moment, feels like too obvious a choice in this case. Artemis is a girl’s name. She was the goddess of the moon and of hunting, and Apollo’s twin. Apollo could be nice!
I advocate for Remy Aurelius Clement, a heavenly combo.
Raphael would be a nice tribute to your sister as well, with the meaning “God has healed.”
I also favor:
Remy Cassian Aurelius
Rémy Aurélien Cassius
Rémy Cassius Aurélien
Remy Casimir Leon
Remy Ulysses Leon
Remy Raphael Aurélien (love the alliteration here)
Remy Raphael Tobias
Remy Theodore Leon (again, the alliterative repetition in sounds is intentional)
Remy Magnus Casimir
Remy Casimir Hugo
Remy Maxime Theodore
Remy Tobias Hugo
For big brother, the combo Luca Cy Theodore is calling to me. Luca Cy Raphael would be lovely as well. Another thought– if you are changing his name anyway and you truly mourn the loss of Lucian, why not call him Lucian nn Luca as you had originally intended? For balance, his brother could be Remus nn Remy.
Readers, are Luca and Lucian too close for comfort for brothers, even if one is used in the middle?
Have you changed or added to a child’s name years after their birth? What was your experience?
What fabulous three name combos can you come up with for both Remy and Luca?
Image by Cy Twombly